Wednesday, October 15, 2008

the need for environmentalism

http://outside.away.com/outside/culture/200810/politics-drilling-us-west-1.html

this isn't as technical as it could be, but is was written for Outside Magazine. but this is a good look at some of the environmental issues facing our region under the next president, who ever he is.

stewardship of our resources will be a major issue in the next 8 years, conservatives (hard core types) will still argue global climate change is a natural occurrence or at least we can't prove human causality plus God gave us dominion of the earth, so let's use it. not only is that idea short sighted, it totally misrepresents why God gave us dominion over the earth. not mention its just throws out good science (science is the problem, remember?). 

when it comes to environment, science and religion i won't throw around the word fact, but i will say, that the consensus of world experts strongly suggests humans have impacted climate change significantly since the industrial revolution (Dickens was on to something). not mention our consumption is at a minimum wasteful and therefore arguably sinful, and by no responsible definition does it represent biblical stewardship.

under the Bush administration public land has been under assault. it doesn't help when oil company execs are shaping our environmental policy (not to say oil execs are trolls, but to say conservation and preservation are counter to their vested interests). the value of clean, clear open space has been devalued as a matter of ideology by conservatives. preserving forests, mountains, plains, wetlands, marshlands, breeding grounds, migration by-ways, have become an unimportant part of living on earth. not that they are liberal causes, they just don't matter.

that is sinful.

longer term stewardship, let alone coherent policy has simply been off the radar, it has been an alien concept since 1994. not to mention the groups that do advocate for environmental  issues have simply become havens for the far left to stash their most militant foot soldiers. 

the Sierra Club was founded by John Muir, the greatest environmentalism and outdoorsmen that this country has known (he was foreign so, he can't the greatest we've had). he would be disgraced by the current composition of the environmental movement in America. but that does not absolve conservatives of responsibility for presiding over a government for 32 of the last 40 years in which the environment and science have been pushed out of sight and out of mind.

are carbons caps, subsides for clean energy and MPG standards really the evils we should be fighting at this point? the other side of these issues escape me. sure there is bad environmental legislation on the books. there is bad legislation of all types on the books. we've had a terrible farm  bill for decades yet it's the bain of no politician, don't fall into the trap that says. "we've been burned by wacko environmentalists before" so anything pro environment is bad.

there are many sensible measure that can and should be in place to preserve and conserve. first, public land should be a tightly held commodity.  second, preserving National Parks, National Forests, State Park and State Forests is as important as any other domestic issue, if not more important. third, conserving our resources through clean energy, responsible drilling and mining, public awareness and sound policy is not optional, it is imperative. and lastly, these are the exact issues in which government should take an active role. while public/private partnerships are ideal, where none can be developed government has the resources and responsibility to take an active role in preserving our environment and conserving our natural resources.




7 comments:

Anonymous said...

This article is exactly the problem with the environmental movement. They offer no solutions. If you read between the lines, they are admitting that they are going to hamstring wind and solar.

They only want to attack demand.

You must understand that the environmentalists do not want a rational debate because they want to use the courts to stop any type of development. The unwritten goal of the Sierra club is to stop development and dismantle anything that has already been built.

The founder of Greenpeace quit that organization because he said that they are no longer basing their political goals in scientific fact. It is like a witch hunt.

What recommendations does this article actually make? What are they willing to concede on? They just use the Reps as scapegoats.

Let us debate specific proposals and see how often you agree with Sierra Club.

Donald, my boy...I leave you for a few weeks and you are going back to soft libbie on me.

Donald said...

Rob-
did you read what I wrote, or are you just responding to the article? Because if you read my post I don't think you would have raised the points that you did...if you did, it looks like we are in for a knock-down-drag-out.

Anonymous said...

I read what you wrote and agree with much of it. I think your main point is that arguments over enviromental issues are so polarized that no rational discourse occurs and we end up with innane policies. I agree with that.

My problem is that most people, (yourself possibly included) blame right wing anti-environmental extremists as much as if not more than the crazy left wingers.

I guess your argument would be that the right is giving away federal lands and that corporations somehow block environmental progress.
To me, none of this compares to how the enviromentalists attack the issue.

Maybe there is truth to this, however, the left wing enviros start at the negotiating table from such an extreme position that the right has no choice except to not back down.

If people actually looked at what they want to accomplish, (My brother built a $700 million bridge in Chula Vista so that the coyotes could migrate properly), there is no possibility that the public would support them. That is why they use the courts and not the ballot box to institute their policies.

Then they have these touchy feely amorphous hit pieces on the evil Republicans.

My point is that the policies you suggest would be possible if the radical left wing would get out of the way. A reasonable debate between the right wing and moderate democrats would make things like nuclear power possible.(Both of our favorites.) But that will NEVER happen as long as the environmental lobby is around, clogging the courts and distorting the truth.

Donald said...

i think we agree on a lot. however, i do not think that republicans in general would chose any of the policies i talked about if given the choice.

do the hard core lefties make it impossible, yes. but none more so than the hard core right.

my point is, these issues will only get bigger. and over the past eight years behind the scenes, process kind of stuff, policies under the republican leadership have put us in a bad position for long term viability.

i am not arguing that democrats would make better legislators. i am say though that to conservatives these are simply non issues. they are creations of the far left and therefore we've some of the most harmful years in recent memory for environmental policy.

Anonymous said...

Ok, name your top four environmental issues. The ones that really get under your skin and you can't believe the Reps havestopped.

I can easily name 10 huge issues where the enviros have gotten under my skin and I think damaged the country with their policies.

1. Banning nuclear power which compromises national security by increasing reliance on foreign oil.
2. Banning offshore oil drilling which does the same
2. Supporting ethanol subsidies
3. Needless capital projects like my brother's bridge to save endangered species
4. Knocking down existing damns to let the rivers run free.
I have to go to bed... I will have more tomorrow.

Donald said...

1. killing higher MPG standards
2. Use of "protected land" for drilling and mining"
3. killing subsides for clean energy, public/private partnerships
4. tax breaks for the biggest polluters.

those are my top 4

Donald said...

"Mountaintop removal is just what the name suggests: enormous machines scrape away mountain ridges to expose the coal seams. The leftover rock and dirt are then dumped into adjacent valleys and streams. The practice has gone on for years. By one estimate, 1,200 miles of Appalachian streams have been buried this way and hundreds of square miles of forests damaged.

No recent administration, Democrat or Republican, has made a serious effort to end the dumping, largely in deference to the coal industry and the political influence of Robert Byrd, West Virginia’s senior senator"

--NY Times Editorial 10.21.2008